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HOW IS THE BEST WAY TO GET UEFI AN SECURE BOOT TO RUN WINDOWS 11 ON A DELL T5500

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  • Unfortunately, the T5500 do not support UEFI and secure boot (TPM) is too old. While you can use a UEFI emulator such as Clover and Chameleon, you will have a even greater dealbreaker with the lack of any AVX instructions on your CPUs if Windows 11 decides to use those features before release. Currently, there are simple fixes to get it to boot with older machines, but more than likely Microsoft will patch those out before release. My only suggestion is to wait for the official release and  see if any safe patches or fixes will be allow Windows 11 to boot from older machines.

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    • stormson weathers I RUN 2 INTEL XEONX5679@3.20GHZ 6 CORE 6 LOGICAL AN 72 GIG OF RAM AN FOR MICROSOFT TO TELL ME I CAN'T RUN WINDOWS 11 IS BS

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    • Frank Byers It sucks, yes, but you're not the only one affected. Even some with the later E5 CPUs are not on the list. All I can suggest is wait until more hard info is available.

      You can enable TPM 1.2 on your current hardware by pressing F12  on boot then selecting "security". Even with that, the info I can find on W11 is still spotty at best and I cannot recommend downloading a "patched" W11 installer since the ones currently floating around are infected. If there's a way in the future to install W11 safely on your hardware, you'll bet there will be a way in doing so, but until then, it's just a waiting game.
       

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    • stormson weathers I HAVE TPM ENABLED AN I RUN WIN 10 PRO BUT IN LEGACY BIOS MODE

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    • Frank Byers "Legacy bios mode" can't be helped since the T5500 do not support EFI/UEFI.

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    • Tony G Thanks for the post! Though for a lot of people here, their computers are older than the ones listed (the oldest I've seen on that list was from 2017). Microsoft might lighten their requirements before release, so here's hoping.

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      stormson weathers Yes, I’m a bit like Frank running three T5500 (dual CPU’s) and been quite happy with the performance of this model running three different operating systems on them over the past decade (WinXP, Win7, and Win10). While Windows 10 end-of-support is Oct-2025, I’ve got to say that given the T7500/5500/3500 series were released in 2009 thereabouts, then a possible 15/16 years of service is a pretty good run for them (I’ll try and squeeze a bit more life out them).  It’s been a joy but will have to bite the bullet at some point as Microsoft and Dell will not see it economical to continue supporting these aging systems, drivers and the like. It's sad because it creates enormous electronic waste. I am myself deciding what model I should pick next (for my budget), to replace these systems so as to future proof for similar scenarios ahead.

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    • Tony G It's not just systems though, even ones going past 2016 and even some of Microsoft's own Surface tablets will not be supported. The Tx600 are also axed, but since most of my VM work is on Linux anyways, it's a no-issue for me, but those that rely on Windows software can't say the same and new hardware is coming in at a premium due to chip shortages.

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      stormson weathers Yes, and those cryptocurrency miners are probably making matters worse for a fair price on semiconductors🤨

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    • Tony G So does Windows 10 work 'fine' on T5500, or did you have to do a lot of tweaking?  It seems to be a problem with big companies not prepared to test all their software/hardware with every new technology which comes along.  I was hoping to run ESXi 7.0 but it is not compatible! (i.e. not tested by VMWare).

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    • Robert Eadie The T5500 can run Windows 10 without issue. If you use 8+ gb of ram and an SSD, youll see a very smooth experience even with low-end cpus.

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    • stormson weathers Great - many thanks for reassurance.

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      Robert Eadie Yes, Windows 10 runs fine on the T5500.  Only minor issue I have is with the with audio that intermittently drops the volume level to zero.  Tried many tweaks to solve this but to no avail so I just put up with it and re-adjust the audio level.

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    • Tony G I have never had any problems running win 10 pro on any T5500 's as of now i have 5 T5500's with windows 10 pro OS on them. I am waiting on a fix too  INSTALL  WINDOWS 11 on the same 5

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    • Frank Byers So do you think Windows 11 might be possible?  Soon?  Ever?

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    • Robert Eadie NOT SURE AT THIS POINT I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL POSTS OF THE TPM AN UEFI GO AROUND BUT NONE HAVE WORKED FOR ME. SOME ONE IN THIS GROUP HAD POSTED A GO AROUND BUT A GAIN I COULD NOT GET IT TO WORK. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION . I DO NOT KNOW AT THIS POINT

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  • Hope I'm in the right section for T5500?  I have seen elsewhere that maximum HDD size is 2TB??  Is that correct, or is it just for the boot drive?

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    • Robert Eadie  I've used a 8tb drive while I used my T5500 for work

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  • Hello,

     

    Found this forum while doing research for my T5500,

    I have upgraded to runing windows 11 on my system.

    Edition    Windows 11 Pro
    Version    21H2
    Installed on    11/27/2021
    OS build    22000.194
    Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.194.0

    Device name    
    Processor    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5680  @ 3.33GHz   3.33 GHz  (2 processors)
    Installed RAM    144 GB
    Device ID    
    Product ID    
    System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Pen and touch    No pen or touch input is available for this display

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    • Thomas Metcalf 

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    • Thomas Metcalf  I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT WAS DONE THIS OLE 75 YEAR OLD M,AN HAS TRIED MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET WIN 11 TO RUN ON MY T5500 WITH NO LUCK

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    • Frank Byers Here is a link an iso of the thumb drive I used: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mEnShCeTkwaiBmTewNC7uFD9j8iGpDlh?usp=sharing

      I used rufus to make a windows 10 Pro bootable usb
      Then using a Windows 11 Pro image copied the /Source/install.wim and replaced the windows the windows 10 install.wim

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    • Frank Byers I pretty much follow this video: https://youtu.be/NivpAiuh-s0?t=623

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    • Thomas Metcalf 
      I've done both a fresh install and a upgrade from Windows 10 install( had to run the setupprep.exe in the source folder, select do not check for updates.  When I get some time will do a video.

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    • Frank Byers Wednesday is my day off will put a video together for you :-)

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    • Thomas Metcalf  thank you sir

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  • Quick guide on how I got Windows 11 on my T5500:

    Windows 11: https://www.itechtics.com/windows-11-download-iso/

     

    Windows 10: https://www.itechtics.com/windows-10-download-iso/

     

    Rufus(iso to usb): https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.17/rufus-3.17.exe

     

    Windows Debloter: https://www.christitus.com/debloat-windows-10-2020/

    Powershell command to copy/paste:

    iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://git.io/JJ8R4'))


     

    Windows 11 Unsupported

     

    Step 1: Make a Windows 10 USB Installer with Rufus

     

    Step 2: Open Windows 11 ISO and copy the install.wim “Exp  E:\sources\install.wim”

     

    Step 3: Past and replace into the windows 10 sources folder, “Exp F:\sources”

     

    Win 10 Upgrade 

    Step 4: On the Windows 10 USB got the  sources folder and run “\sources\setupprep.exe”

     

    Step 5: IMPORTANT,  Select “Change how Windows Setup downloads updates” and chouse “Not right now”

     

    Step 6: Continue the setup process and you will be running windows 11 on your unsupported hardware.

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  • Video is uploading right now (11/30/2021 21:42PT)
    Windows 11 T5500 install: https://youtu.be/IUV-0QFrLg8

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