HP Z420 Gaming Computer and other Upgrades

HP Z420 GAMING COMPUTER AND OTHER UPGRADES

The HP Z420 has all the base components to be converted in to a high end gaming computer.  HP Z420’s are a single socket Xeon based workstations.  They have a standard 400W Power Supply with an optional 600W Power Supply.  We have a video that will show you how to upgrade the power supply if you need more wattage for your graphic card of choice. Let us show you how you can build an effective HP Z420 Gaming Computer.

Where to buy?

If you haven’t already acquired an HP Z420 Workstation we’d recommend checking out a company called Serverworlds.  They sell the Z420’s cheap and they provide free ground shipping to the lower 48 states.  You can configure a custom HP Z420 using here.  You can also try to snag them cheap on Ebay.  However, Ebay can be a bit of a gamble because you never know what you are going to get.

The goal is to purchase the Z420 with a good processor and memory already installed and then you can source the graphics cards, hard drives, and other optional components from other sources.

 

What Processor(s) should I get?

High Clock speed cpu’s are the way to go.

 

If you have system board PN 619557-001 aka 618263-001, you can only install V1 Processors

 

Recommended Processors:

Xeon QC E5-1620 3.6Ghz 10MB  130W Processor | 3.8 Max Turbo Frequency (SR0LC)

Xeon QC E5-2643 3.33Ghz 10MB 8GTs 130W Processor | 3.5Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR0L7)

Xeon 6C E5-1650 3.2Ghz 12MB 130W Processor | 3.8Ghz Max Turbo Frequency  (SR0KZ)

Xeon 6C E5-1660 3.30Ghz 15MB 130W Processor | 3.9Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR0KN)

Xeon 6C E5-2667 2.90Ghz 15MB 8GTs 130W Processor | 3.5Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR0KP)

*If you plan to install a CPU that utilizes more then 130W,  HP recommends that you install the liquid cool heatsink assembly.*

Xeon 8C E5-2687W 3.1Ghz 20MB 8GTs 150W Processor | 3.8 Max Turbo Frequency (SR0KG)

 

*You Must have System Board PN: 708615-001 to support V2 Processors*

 

Xeon QC E5-1620 V2 3.70Ghz 10MB 0GTs 130W Processors | 3.9Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR1AR)

Xeon QC E5-2637 V2 3.50Ghz 15MB 8GTs 130W Processors | 3.8Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR1B7)

Xeon 6C E5-2643 V2 3.50Ghz 25MB 8GTs 130W Processors | 3.8Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR19X)

Xeon 8C E5-2667 V2 3.3Ghz 25MB 8GTs 130W Processors | 4.0Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR19W)

*If you plan to install a CPU that utilizes more then 130W,  HP recommends that you install the liquid cool heatsink assembly.*

Xeon 8C E5-2687W V2 3.4Ghz 25MB 8GTs 150W Processors | 4.0Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR19V)

 

How much Memory should I get?

The base line should be a minimum of 16GB of memory.  However, 24GB to 32GB would be ideal.

Memory PNs:

4GB 1Rx4 ECC 14900R DDR3 Module (712381-571)

8GB 2Rx4 ECC 14900R DDR3 Module (715273-001)

8GB 1Rx4 ECC 14900R DDR3 Module (731657-081)

16GB 2Rx4 ECC 14900R DDR3 Module (715274-001)

 

Recommended Memory configurations:

4 x 4GB PC14900R ECC Reg Modules (16GB)

6 x 4GB PC14900R ECC Reg Modules (24GB)

4 x 8GB PC14900R ECC Reg Modules (32GB)

6 x 8GB PC14900R ECC Reg Modules (48GB)

It’s very important to use 14900R modules because they will run at the max speed supported by the system board and processor(s).

 

What Hard Drive should I get?

Ideally you would want to have a Solid State Drive as your boot device as well an NVME.2 SSD to store your game libraries/large programs on.  If you are limited on budget you could go with a small SSD for your boot device and a larger capacity 7.2K SATA drive to hold your larger files/programs/games.

 

Recommended SSD Drives:

Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)

Samsung 860 Evo 500GB 2.5 inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E500B/AM)

 

Recommended large Capacity SATA Drives:

Seagate 2TB BarraCuda SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Desktop Hard Drive (ST2000DM006)

Seagate 3TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal HDD (ST3000DM008)

Seagate 6TB IronWolf SATA HDD 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5″(ST6000VN0033)

 

*NVME.2 Drives cannot be used as a boot device with this model workstation*

NVME.2 PCIe Adapter (You need this if you plan to install an NVME.2 Drive in to this system):

NVME.2 SSD Adapter *Required to Install NVME.2*

 

Recommended NVME.2 SSDs:

WD Black 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe NVME SSD (WDS512G1X0C)

Samsung 960 EVO Series – 500GB NVMe – M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6E500BW)

Samsung 960 EVO Series – 1TB PCIe NVMe – M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6E1T0BW)

 

Raid Controller:

Integrated Intel AHCI 6GBPS SATA Controller (Supports Software Raid 0, 1, 5, 10)

LSI 9217 6GBPS SAS/SATA PCIe Controller (Supports Raid 0, 1, 10)

LSI 9270-8i 6GBPS SAS/SATA PCie Controller (Supports Raid 0, 1, 5, 10)

 

What Graphics Card should I get?

*Before upgrading your graphics card you should verify what wattage power supply you have installed.*

HP Z420 700W Power Supply Upgrade Video

Recommended Graphics Cards:

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1050 TI 4GB Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1060 6GB Graphics Card

*If you upgrade your power supply to 650W or more.*

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1660 Ti 6GB Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA RTX 2060 6GB Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1070 8GB SC Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1070TI 8GB Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA RTX 2070 8GB Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1080 SC 8GB Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA RTX 2080 8GB Graphics Card

*If you upgrade your power supply to 800W or more.*

EVGA NVIDIA GTX1080 TI 11GB SC2 ICX Technology Graphics Card

EVGA NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti 11GB Graphics Card

 

What type of Monitor should I get?

Ideally it would be nice to get a monitor with a 144Hz or 244hz refresh rate or better monitor.  However, it really depends on the games you play.  If you play first person shooter games a 144hz or 240Hz or better monitor is a must.  If you play other games that do not require quick response time then a 60hz monitor should work fine.

Recommended Monitors:

ASUS PG248Q Full HD 144Hz 1MS 24″ Gaming Monitor

ASUS VG278Q Full HD 1080P 144Hz 1MS 27″ Gaming Monitor

ASUS XG258Q ROG Strix 24.5″ 1080P 240Hz 1MS Gaming Monitor

 

Replacement Power Supply:

 

Replacement HP Z420 600W Power Supply (Spare PN: 632911-001)

 

Recap:

Using the criteria above you can help you build a high end gaming system using a HP Z420 Workstation.

 

Sample Configuration:

HP Z420 Workstation (Gen 2 System Board)

1 x 8C Xeon E5-2687W V2 3.4Ghz 25MB 8GTs

32GB PC14900R (4 x 8GB)

Samsung 256GB 6GBPS SSD + 512GB Samsung Evo NVME

EVGA GTX1060 w/6GB  Graphics Card

1 x 10/100/1000 Network Port

600W Power Supply

DVD-RW

10 Pro 64Bit

 

We have tested this system with games like Dota 2, CS Go, PubG, Overwatch, and The Division.  The frames can range from 90FPS to 200FPS depending on the game and settings that you choose.  The system was tested using a 144Hz 27″ Acer Monitor.

 

Accessories:

 

SteelSeries QCK Heavy Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad (Click Here)

SteelSeries Apex M750 RGB Mechnical Keyboard (Click Here)

Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum RGB Tunable Gaming Mouse (Click Here)

HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Gaming Headset (Click Here)

El Gato Game Capture HD60 Pro for a Streaming Capture PC (Click Here)

Secretlab Premium Gaming Chairs (Click Here)

 

Videos:

HP Z420 700W Power Supply Upgrade Video

HP Z420 Gaming Computer

HP Z420 Processor Upgrade and Install

HP Z420 Memory/Ram Install

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  • Hi! Is it possible to upgrade to a DDR4 memory module or would that not be possible/worth it? Is a Xeon the only possible processor for this system? Thanks!

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    • Elan Cooper The Z420 doesn't support DDR4 Memory.  If you have the V2 system board you could potentially install 14900R (1866Mhz) memory if you have a supported V2 processor installed.

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  • Any luck finding quieter fans for these?  The stock ones are noisy and the connectors are all four pin with a different type of connector than other four pin fans.

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    • Mark B sorry for the slow response.  The Z420 stock cooling fans should be quiet.  Are they loud when the system idles?

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  • Hi Jbigticket23 

    The stock fans are OK, but there is much more noise than the z220 that I had earlier.  I did some messing around and found the culprit to be the memory fan.  I did some looking at that fan and saw it has four wires instead of the normal 3.  I googled the part number to see if I could get a replacement and all I could find were three wire fans with the same part number. I understand that three wire fans are for PWM signal to adjust the RPM.  What's the fourth wire?

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  • Not sure if this is the correct place, but I'm trying to move a Z420 into a new case, I've installed a new power supply and graphics card and I am getting an error that seems to be common to those attempting this:

    921- Front USB not connected

    939 - Front USB 3.0 Not Connected

    940 - Front 1394 Not Connected

     

    I've taken the Blue USB connector from the new case and plugged it into the Z420 Blue USB connector port and attempted to boot up, getting the above errors.

    I've read that you can "short out" two pins on the blue USB port to resolve USB errors, but I was hoping to be able to use the USB ports on the new case, rather than fooling the motherboard into booting (by shorting the pins) and then not being able to plug the cases blue USB connector into the motherboard if I short out the pins and take up the space the connector requires to connect to the motherboard.

     

    Currently, I can't get the Z420 to get past this error, hitting the F1 key to continue bootup appears to do nothing, the computer remains frozen, and I have officially hit the frustration point ;-)

    Can someone direct me to the "fix"?

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    • Jeff A You can disable the front usb ports in the bios.

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  • I'm looking to Swap Cases on my HP z420 and I have ran into a few issues... i dont how I'm going to get around the front panel USB configuration and The power button connector. 

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  • Jason Kimball You should hit up our discord channel.  There are multiple community members that have successfully swapped a Z420 in to an ATX case.  They might be able to provide more info.  

     

    Discord Channel: https://discordapp.com/invite/m4suddv

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    • Jbigticket23 thank you so much! I definitely will hop on and see what I can find.

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  • I am in the middle of this right now. but I am going to replace my motherboard with the Intel DX79TO since I think my motherboard has some issue with my GPU. I made a post earlier.

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  • I've been using A Z420 for a few years now.

    Xeon E5-1620 (stock w/ liquid cooler)

    32GB DDR3 ECC RAM  (stock)

    250GB Samsung Evo SSD (upgrade, boot)

    2x WD 1TB RAID 1 (stock, data)

    600 watt PSU (stock)

    Asus 1060 6GB Turbo (upgrade)

     

    Runs all my games with high settings on a 34" ultrawide monitor (2560x1080) at 60-120 fps. Looking to pass this down to my kid who's just got into PC gaming, currently on a 4th-gen i7 & GTX 750 ti.

     

    I'm looking at the HP Z440 as my next platform.

     

    The best graphics cards for these chassis types are those with blower-style shrouds. Hot air is forced out the back, while typical aftermarket cards just circulate the hot air, and it's up to the single CPU/chassis exhaust fan to expel the extra heat.

     

    Another idea is to get a liquid cooler graphics card, such as the EVGA Hybrid series. Then you can cut an opening on the side panel to mount the radiator and fan. This is my plan for my next rig.

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  • With 16GB x 8, you can achieve a max memory of 128GB, but because of registered ecc module design, the speed of the memory will clock down.

    However, the z420 also supports load-reduced registered ecc modules (LRDIMMs), and there's two distinct advantages I've found.  One is that you can exceed 16GB modules and use 32GB ones for a total of 256GB (I have this installed in my z420), and the second is that the modules will run at full speed with no clocking down.

    Pairing this much memory with a high core count cpu can make for a nice system for virtual machines.

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      Samir D 

      What if i put 8 of this module in PN: 712383-081, Samsung. Will the speed of the memory clock down?

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      Samir D 

      I have hp z420 v2 with a e5 1750 v2 cpu.

      I have 16gb 14900e now running 1866mhz. I would like to upgrade to 8 x 16gb 14900r would they run at 1866mhz?

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      Jon Yes it will.  And this is common for any normal registered ecc ddr3.  My servers that take this stuff clock it down too after you have so many modules.

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      Jon I'm not sure if udimm ecc clocks down in the z420.  I know ecc reg will clock down.

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      Samir D so its better to buy 8x 8gb 14900r? I can get a great deal for 8x 16gb 14900r.

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      Jon Registered ecc is going to clock down once you fully load all the channels, no matter what the size is.  How much are you getting these for?  If they're under $1/gb it's a good deal, but anything more than that is too expensive imo.

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      Samir D 

      Oke too which mhz shall it clock down.

      i can get 8x 16gb for 110 euro include shipping.

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      Jon That's a pretty good deal. :)  So the clocking down depends on the max ram speed of the processor, not the ram.  So for example, my z420 has an e5-2630L which has a max memory speed of 1333Mhz.  Even with with 1866Mhz ram running at full speed, it will only run at 1333.  Then it will clock down as you fill up the banks.  I can't find the exact documentation that states in what stages it will clock down, but it is common that it will drop to the next slowest clock speed as the number of overall ranks increase.  So 1333 will drop to 1066, and then to 800Mhz.

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      Samir D 

      Thanks for the info, i will let you know when i order them. In my other hp z420 v1 i have 64gb running at 1333mhz

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      Jon Sounds good!  Should be a solid plan. :)  I've got a v1 and I have 8x 32GB LRDIMMs in it.  Those things get HOT though so you need the front memory shroud.  It might not be a bad idea for you to get one if you don't already have one.

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      Samir D 

      Thanks I was searching and found 1 on ebay i email the seller, i also wanna buy the front fan. Check out this topic. https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Business-PCs-Workstations-and-Point-of-Sale-Systems/Z420-Missing-memory-fans-and-air-baffles-part-numbers-please/td-p/7522856

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      Jon That's a good reference as SDH on there knows a tremendous amount about the z series.  Be sure to also check out hp partsurfer for a complete listing of all the parts for the z420:

      http://partsurfer.hp.com/Search.aspx?type=PROD&SearchText=B5N55LT

      For my z420, I found the cost of the front memory duct a bit off putting considering I could get a dedicated aftermarket memory cooler for less, and that it wouldn't be forcing the hot air through the power supply, so I went that route getting the first picture in this link:

      https://graphicscardhub.com/ram-cooler-heatsink/

      It works very well and was cheaper than the duct.  I simply converted one of the drive power to power the fan on the cooler.

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      Samir D 

      Thanks for the link. Ill wait when i receivs the memory then i will order the front memory shroud..

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      Jon I would check how hot the modules get.  I discovered the heat when memtest started having errors and those modules were much hotter than the other ones that had the stock fan.  I rigged up a simple case fan pointing at the second memory bank and the problem went away so I knew a memory cooler would solve the issue.  I also knew this was some serious heat that I really didn't want going into the power supply like it is originally designed--something to consider.

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      Samir D 

      Hmm ok how did you test the memory heat. I have now a hp z420 v2 with e5 1650 v2 @ 3.50ghz 4x 4gb 14900e (16gb) totaal. I dont have the front memory shrouder. But planning to buy it. For the rest i have a saphire rx580 nitro + speciaal edition card and samsung 500gb ssd. And 1 tb wd sata drive.. how to test the memory heat

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      Jon It was actually pretty simple.  I ran memtest and stressed the memory.  When I started getting errors, I was wondering why.  I shut off the system and unplugged everything and opened the case and felt where there was heat--the memory modules were hot enough to burn my hand if I held it there.  So I took off the memory fan cover on the other side and felt those modules and they were only warm.  My guess was that the front memory bank was overheating, so I plugged in a spare fan and put it inside the case facing against the second bank of memory and re-ran the memtest.  No more errors.  I felt the modules when I swapped to another set I needed to test and they were no longer scalding hot.  Then I debated the front memory shroud versus a memory fan.  Finding a very good condition secondhand memory fan for cheap made my decision.  I installed the memory fan and re-ran a memtest--passed with flying colors.  And now the system is in production. :)

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      Samir D 

      Ai thats a good test indeed. I wonder how my memory are now. But will see when e receive the 8x 16gb 14900r. And then order the front memory shrouder. Hope that work for me

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      Jon Yep, was pretty easy to diagnose the issue.  Easy way for you to find out is to run memtest overnight.  If it passes that, your current cooling is fine.  Then run the same test once you have your new ram and memory cooler.  If it is not going to work, you will start to have memory errors once the heat is too much. 

      One thing I also did was set all my fans in the bios to 100%.  I always run my systems that way--I had a motherboard die once because pwm didn't kick in when an ac system failed.  With 100% fans I have no risk.

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      Samir D 

      I received the memory today and just installed them, they are running at 1866mhz. By removing the old memory i noticed the front memory are a bit warm. So im gonna buy the hp front memory shrouder

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      Jon That's awesome!  Always great to see so much memory on the z420. :D  If it's warm in just normal usage, then a memtest will probably stress it to the point of errors.  Once you have the memory shroud in position, run memtest on a continuous loop to test all 128GB.  It will probably take almost a full 24hrs to test that much ram as my 256GB took 34hrs.  With the shroud in place if you have any memory errors, stop the test and feel the temperature of the memory, and if it is too hot, get a memory cooler with a fan as the shroud isn't enough.

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      Samir D It's super to see it running at 1866Mhz too--that's just killer. :)

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      Samir D 

      Will order the shroud and see, but its not a.problem because my pc is not on all the time. I just use it for gaming and youtube etc.. 

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      Samir D 

      Yes indeed it is. I was doubting if it will clockdown. 

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      Jon It could be a problem because any continuous use of memory that uses those modules could overheat and cause system crashes.  Better to test and take preventative measures than find out after the damage is permanent.

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      Jon From what I've read it should have clocked down with all the slots full, but I'm glad to see it didn't. :)

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      Samir D 

      yeah im also glad that it didnt clock down., i just order the memory shrouder and also the front fan, got them both for 50 euro.

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      Jon Let me know how the shroud seems to work for the heat.  I'd be curious since I never got one.

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  • Hi there, I've got a HP Z420. Can anyone tell me how i can find out which version motherboard i have, PN 619557-001 aka 618263-001 :V1 or PN: 708615-001 : V2 I cannot find it in bios or printed on the Motherboard. I'm guessing i've the V1 as my CPU is E5-1620 but don't know for sure and therefore don't know if i can upgrade to faster V2 CPU's. Any advice welcome and Thanks in advance

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      David David 

      Check in the bios or on the mothetboard.

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      Jon  Thank you for your fast response. If I have the below board is it V1 processors only for me?. I've just bought a RX580 8gb GPU and hope this cpu won't bottleneck it.

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      David 

      The bootblock date you can see. If it is 2011 its v1 if it is 2013 its v2.. i alao have rx580 8gb. I had ir dirat in my v1 but now in my v2. Make sure you have a 600 watt psu

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      Jon  Thanks for clarifying that. I have the factory 600W PSU and have just upgraded to 16gb ram (2gb x8). I'll see how it performs and consider V2 processors if it's badly affecting FPS. What V2 CPU did you match your 580 with?

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      David 

      I also have 16gb 4x 4gb 14900e in my v2 systeem. But i just order 8x 16gb 14900r. I have a e5 1650 v2 @ 3,5ghz

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      Jon I was quite confused by all the memory types to be honest so bought identical ram to the modules that came with the PC. I knew they ran at the fastest speed the CPU would allow 1600mhz as per the Intel website. 16gb ram is plenty for me at the moment. Thanks for your help today, it's great knowing I've better upgrade options for the future with V2 CPU's. 

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      David 

      Yes 16gb is enough actually but i got a good deal for the other module. And mine is running at 1866mhz. I got some of the 12800e memorry if you need

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      Jon Thanks for the ram offer. I don't want to spend any more money on this build untill I can confirm it's still working. I'm on a tight budget already. You see I took out the Nvidia K600 that came with it to photograph and sell, and when I reseated it there was no video out ( persumed broken) I'm now patiently awaiting my 580 from Amazon as I don't even have another GPU to run diagnostics. I got the PC for €17.70 with 8 gb ram and the RX580 was £158 new. If I didn't break the k600 the whole build would of ended up costing be about €190. Fingers crossed it still works, if broken I'll just sell RX 580 and pc parts and move on. 

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      David ok ok i understand..

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      David It's hard to break a gpu.  I would just check how it was seated.  These aren't fragile consumer systems so it shouldn't have broken just like that.

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